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#660270 - 09.10.10 19:23 Chile-Argentina [Jan-Feb 2011]
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Two Oceans and the "Cordillera"
January-February 2011

First through the Lake District and then from the Pacific to the Atlantic crossing the "Cordillera".

Map

From San Carlos de Bariloche to Rawson passing via Puerto Montt, Puerto Varas, Quellón-Chacao (Isle Chiloè), Chaiten, Puerto Cardenas, Villa Santa Lucia, Futaleufú, Trevelin, Esquel, Tecka, and then along the Rio Chubut through Paso de Indios, Los Altares, Digue F. Ameghino, Dolavon, Gaiman, Trelew, Rawson ... to conclude at Playa Union.

More in the detail, considered that Google Maps tracks (and associated elevation profiles), at least in this area, are not reliable at all, my topic interest remains centered on Futaleufù-Trevelin-Esquel-Tecka stretch along routes CH-7, CH-235, CH-231 (Chile) and RA-259 (Argentina).

Here below the Google Maps link:
http://maps.google.it/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&am...055 & z = 5

Any suggestion or information is welcome into the discussion.

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#661107 - 12.10.10 19:14 Re: Chile-Argentina [Jan-Feb 2011] [Re: ConRAD]
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Hi
I am also going to Argentina 27.12.but we will be riding on the norths only,Salta,to San antonio de los Cobres,down to Purmamarca after going to the Norths Humahuaca,Iruya.Frpm there a bus to Salta (so we don t ride 2 times the same route)and from there to Tucuman
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#665098 - 27.10.10 19:58 Re: Chile-Argentina [Jan-Feb 2011] [Re: ConRAD]
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Yes,
my suggestion is, that you should stay near the Andes, that is near the frontier. The long stretch to the coast and also the road near the coast are a lot less interesting.

Have fun

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#669275 - 15.11.10 15:30 Re: Chile-Argentina [Jan-Feb 2011] [Re: dcjf]
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anyone has an idea where to find a detailed map of the lakes district from San Carlos de Bariloche to Puerto Montt and, more in the detail, across the Chile-Argentina border at Paso de Peres Rosales?
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#669666 - 16.11.10 19:37 Re: Chile-Argentina [Jan-Feb 2011] [Re: ConRAD]
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Hi
this is the best web for Argentinian map and is for free!!!
http://www.proyectomapear.com.ar
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#669776 - 16.11.10 23:21 Re: Chile-Argentina [Jan-Feb 2011] [Re: gera]
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Originally Posted By: gera
Hi, this is the best web for Argentinian map and is for free!!!
http://www.proyectomapear.com.ar
saludos

Thank you, it works !!!
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#669832 - 17.11.10 09:33 Re: Chile-Argentina [Jan-Feb 2011] [Re: ConRAD]
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I also wonder whether something similar exists for Brazil, it would be wonderful !!!
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#670115 - 17.11.10 21:49 Re: Chile-Argentina [Jan-Feb 2011] [Re: ConRAD]
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dont think so Argentinians are better you saw tonight 1-0
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#670878 - 20.11.10 18:56 Re: Chile-Argentina [Jan-Feb 2011] [Re: ConRAD]
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Hi,
have a look in our Wiki:
http://radreise-wiki.de/Kartenverlage#Amerika
Our Member Helmut/KartenFreak travelled through Brasil. Maybe he can hepl you.
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#671007 - 21.11.10 10:28 Re: Chile-Argentina [Jan-Feb 2011] [Re: mgabri]
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Excellent indeed, thank you.
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#686135 - 21.01.11 21:27 Re: Chile-Argentina [Jan-Feb 2011] [Re: ConRAD]
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Bueno, lunes 24 de enero es el dia de la gran salida!!
"Two Oceans and the Cordillera" ... from San Carlos de Bariloche to Valdes/Comodoro Rivadavia, twenty-thirty days across the Andes, Argentina and Chile.
Hasta luego,
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#700944 - 09.03.11 23:57 Re: Chile-Argentina [Jan-Feb 2011] [Re: ConRAD]
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From the Pacific to the Atlantic : “dos Oceanos y la Cordillera”.
A trip through Argentina and Chile in which we alternated some parts by coach, by ship … and, of course, by our, so much beloved, bikes !!!
First, roughly 2000 km from Buenos Aires to Puerto Montt (Chile) by coach, crossing East to West the whole continent passing the province of La Pampa (Argentina).
Then 300 km from Puerto Montt to the Island of Chiloè (Chile) by bike, down-down till the southern port of Quellon. From here ten hours of navigation, during a terrible rainstorm, to Raul Marin Balmaceda on Chile mainland.
From Balmaceda, crossing one of the most enchanting places I’ve ever seen in my life and winding-up the Rio Palena we reached the Carretera Austral, then the mythical R-40 and, finally, the much less famous R-25 !!!
Something like 600-650 km from Esquel to Playa Union, on the Atlantic shore, passing through one of the most desert steppe I’ve ever seen.
From Trelew a “quick” deviation to Comodoro Rivadavia and finally, from there, more than 2000 km by coach back to Buenos Aires !!


THE DATES
From January 24 to February 23, 2011

THE ROUTE
link to the map
I have changed the view of the map to a link. (Rennrädle - moderator

THE PARTICIPANTS


A FEW PICTURES
Chiloè Island (CHILE): OVERVIEW


Chiloè Island (CHILE): CASTRO


Chiloè Island (CHILE): CASTRO


Chiloè Island (CHILE): QUELLON


Raul Marin Balmaceda (CHILE mainland): the very difficult disembarking operations during a terrible rainstorm. It’s 03:00 in the morning of February the 2nd, 2011.








Raul Marin Balmaceda: here starts the fabulous X-12: it looks like to be in a paradise !!








The crossing of Rio Palena


Arrival at “La Junta” along the Carretera Austral



... pedalling along the Carretera Austral





Dawn on magic Yelcho lake


Towards TREVELIN


Days become hotter and hotter … therefore for four consecutive nights we are forced to start at 03:00 in the morning


Along Ruta 25: Esquel, Tecka, Paso dos Indios, Los Altares, Las Plumas, Digue Florentino Ameghino, Dovolan, Gaiman














Pampa de Agnia: a pit stop to fill the tanks …


It is February the 12th, here the so much dreamed arrival to Trelew !!!


In the direction of Comodoro Rivadavia, something like 400 km “in the middle of nothing” …


The arrival to Comodoro, it’s February the 15th, 2011!!!


Suburbs of Comodoro, strong wind, dust and sand everywhere !!!


I could’ t resist to take a picture at the commands of this fabulous Ford Falcon class ‘72


Propaganda of yesterday !!


Politics of today !!


Comodoro: cars of yesterday …


… and cars of today


Comodoro: the relax of the “indio” …


Buenos Aires: the touristic distric of “La Boca”


… return to home (Milano-Linate Airport) : …oh yes, here the protagonists !!!!



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#702916 - 16.03.11 18:39 Re: Chile-Argentina [Jan-Feb 2011] [Re: ConRAD]
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Hello Corrado,
thanks for the pictures of your great voyage from the other side of the wolrd. I think you had to stand some hard weather there. You use packages from Vaude Discover series. What is your experience? Are they really tight during hard rain? Do you think they will be stable for many years? I consider to buy new packages. I like the concept of Vaude more than that of Ortlieb in general. But the last Cordura series of Vaude has getting leaky within 4 years. So I'm not sure about this new Discover series.
Liebe Grüße! Ciao! Salut! Saludos! Greetings!
Matthias
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#703001 - 17.03.11 09:26 Re: Chile-Argentina [Jan-Feb 2011] [Re: veloträumer]
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Olà Matthias,
yes indeed, most of the trip through Chiloè (Chile) and then in the mainland of Chile along Rio Palena till to reach Carretera Austral (more than one week !!!) has been under a continuous heavy rain. The new bagages (Vaude Discovery series) did withstand excellently the rain, no infiltration at all not even from the zip-pockets but, you know, it's very new equipment so I can't say now how long they'll last. Next September I'm planning a long trip in Brazil and so, surely, I'll have the opportunity to double check again their behaviour.
I'll let you know.
Ciao.
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#703056 - 17.03.11 12:56 Re: Chile-Argentina [Jan-Feb 2011] [Re: ConRAD]
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Thanks for information.
Liebe Grüße! Ciao! Salut! Saludos! Greetings!
Matthias
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#756583 - 13.09.11 16:56 Re: Chile-Argentina [Jan-Feb 2011] [Re: ConRAD]
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Hello Conrad,
When do you arrive in Argentinia?

I will also be there.
I will arive on the 28th of November and then head to San juan and then Mendoza. I hope to be in Bariloche by christmas...approximately
Ciao
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#756635 - 13.09.11 19:01 Re: Chile-Argentina [Jan-Feb 2011] [Re: Lone Rider]
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Hi Rita,
January 2011 has already passed by as you can see watching at the magnificent photos Conrad took. He should be in Brasil now if I understood his last posting wright.

Regards

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#756642 - 13.09.11 19:36 Re: Chile-Argentina [Jan-Feb 2011] [Re: Lone Rider]
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Originally Posted By: Lone Rider
Hello Conrad, when do you arrive in Argentinia?...

Sorry Rita, perhaps you made some confusion !
Now I'm ready to leave for Brazil, after tomorrow September the 15th to be precise!!
In the meantime you can have a look to my blog here below, I'll start to update it as soon as ... I can ... tongue
BRASIL 2011-NORDESTE

Good luck!
Corrado
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#756934 - 14.09.11 19:27 Re: Chile-Argentina [Jan-Feb 2011] [Re: ConRAD]
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Hello Corrado,

true...I overlooked the dates.
What a shame. frown

Well...in that case enjoy brazil...should also be magnificant.
Just a question...do you think it's dangerous for a women travelling alone in argentinia-chile?? and did you meet many bikers while travelling in argentina - chile?

Thank you
Rita
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#756936 - 14.09.11 19:29 Re: Chile-Argentina [Jan-Feb 2011] [Re: dcjf]
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Hello Christian,
thank you for the email...I was so enthusiatic to see that someone else might be travelling in Argentinia -chile...that I overlooked the year date.

Oh...well...
Cheers
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#767472 - 28.10.11 20:51 Re: Chile-Argentina [Jan-Feb 2011] [Re: Lone Rider]
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Hello

Im travel Chile and Argentina Jan - May 2010
on www.bikenomada.pl is same fotos.

Regards
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